HINDRAF is asking for a repeat of May 13th 1969
Someone should tell HINDRAF that they are purposely asking for trouble with seditious statements such as this:
Mr.V.Ganabatirau who was arrested detained and locked up and later released at about 4.00p.m has vowed to continue his legal and peaceful struggle against the racist, malay supremacist and Islamic extremist UMNO led Malaysian government’s 50 years of marginalisation and permanent colonialisation of the mere 8% politically, socially and economically suppressed, oppressed and marginalised for 50 years ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia.
And you think that they are not racist? It begs the question as to why they are involving the whole Malay-Muslim community for their own laziness and poverty issues.
(No) thanks to their short-sightedness, bigotry, closet-minded, racist-supremacy thinking and retarded arrogance (ironically, the very same thing they are accusing UMNO of) in issuing such a silly statement, they are just playing with fire and you can bet that UMNO will use this statement to their advantage among the Malay-Muslim population, especially those who are as short-sighted, bigoted, closet-minded, racist-supremacist thinking and have a retarded arrogance as HINDRAF obviously is as well.
This is the reason why I joined PAS and why I espouse the struggle of PAS vis-a-vis justice through the implementation of Islam and Islamic Law. There can be no justice without Islam and Islam is for all, regardless of race or religion. I detest the racial politics card used by some, not to mention the fact that it has been prevalent for the past fifty years since this nation’s Independence.
It takes a racist to know a racist. HINDRAF and UMNO are certainly like two peas in a pod.
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MENJ is 28/m/BTHO. Pursuing a degree programme at APIIT, he is currently a full-time ProBlogger and Web Directory Owner. He is also a Muslim Internet activist and student of Comparative Religion, dedicated to combating misinformation about Islam. 


Please give rights to people, all of us are human beings, sons and daughters of God. God is supreme, He doesn’t need numbers to back him uo, live peacefully as brothers and sisters. After Nazism, extremism is there. If you start offer justice to people, there won’t be extreme ideology like this. You don’t want to go down on the prosperity you have accumulated over the years do you?
Please in the name of god, don’t snatch bodies, don’t destroy temples, separate families. Follow the example of Attaruk of Turkey, who had a great vision to separate politics from religion to make Turkey a prosperous place.
[MENJ: Bad example. Attaturk was the worst human being ever to walk on this planet. As for temples, I do NOT see any temples destroyed, except for the measly few built illegally on government land. Batu Caves is still standing.]
Comment by Johnson — December 1, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
im echoed the Johnson’s comment…give rights to all people of Malaysia…there is no such thing super race or…God will be pleasing if you help the least among us
God bless Malaysians
Comment by Pribumi Malaysia — December 1, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
The problem is malaysian have never been treated equal with malay supreme and being privilege to acquire stock, special discount for house buying, university entrance, privilege to import cars, privilege to impose law to gain business and monetary advantage over other races and etc.
Comment by asaa — December 1, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
Ganabatirau’s description of UMNO is largely correct. We see and face it everyday in our daily lifes in govt. offices, schools, police stations and elsewhere.
Batu Caves will be left standing to wayang to the world how tolerance the Malay Talibans are apart from it being a tourist site.
Comment by Equaliser — December 1, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Threathening May 13 on minorities is racism, and an overt form of ethnic cleansing.
Comment by sangkancil99 — December 2, 2007 @ 12:10 am
MENJ - If what HINDRAF is saying is getting up your nose, why don’t you be the one to say what ought or you want said. May 13 was a long time ago and you were not even born then so stop talking of an era you know nothing of. Times have change and the bogey of May 13 has been around long enough for those on the receiving end at the time to be more prepared this time if it were to happen again. I dont think anyone wants it for there will be a very heavy price for ALL Malaysian’s to pay (Bumi or non-Bumi)
[MENJ: I know what went on during May 13th, it has always been a pet topic of mine. Some individuals I am close with were around at that time as well.]
Comment by Ben Chudd — December 2, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Understand what you say. UMNO already started the disinformation campain. .But they can’t win this time. Unlike may13. We will lose TOGETHER. Sama sama jadi abu. Are they ready for that.
First we had racial discrimination mild, later got worse; now Islamic fundamentalism. What we are seeing now is therefore ‘mild’ (even with all the blatant destruction of temple. smaller one first, bigger ones will come later) the worst is going to come if we don’t stop it now. We fear, but we got more to lose if don’t act now. We tolerated the past, worried over present, but future - there is no future! You have self respect, so do we; you love your religion, so do we. If you say there is no other God besides Allah, we respect your faith in your religion; but if you corner us and push it on us,sorry it doesn’t work that way.
Comment by ramanath — December 2, 2007 @ 12:57 am
I personally assure you that there are temples being destroyed unjustly. Every religion should be respected and even if the temples are on illegal land, they should be given time and land to relocate. Another reason for the emergence of these temples is because the government fails to provide land for temples. As for your example on Batu Caves, I think the government will not want to destroy a well known temple and smear its name as a multi-racial country. Furthermore, the government has destroyed temples older 100 years when they have stated they will not do so. Claiming HINDRAF to be short sighted and racist supremacy thinking clearly shows that you are ignorant of the issues facing the Indian community. The Malays have got the government, the Chinese are well to do and always supported well while the Indian community have been marginalized and have hardly anyone besides MIC(which fails) to voice their problem. This is the reason HINDRAF champions for the Indians. I am sure that HINDRAF will be willing to cooperate with other organizations with different races to end the problem of marginalization and discrimination. To resolve this problem, all Malaysians must be treated equally. Special position can be given to the Malays but it should not deprive others of opportunities. But mind you, historically even the Malays did not originate from Malaysia. Lastly, claiming HINDRAF to be racist, don’t you think you just showed you are racist as well because it only takes one racist to know another(as said by you).
[MENJ: Obviously you fail to understand the point of my post and this is evidenced by playing the race card at the end of this comment. Who cares about race? I don't. I am a MUSLIM first before any race. And yes, my ancestors came from Tanah Jawa which is in present-day Indonesia, so? What does this have got anything to do with the fact that HINDRAF is playing the race card and that UMNO, being an equally racist entity, is using the issue to their advantage?
It takes a racist to know a racist and both HINDRAF and UMNO are racists.]
Comment by Sri — December 2, 2007 @ 1:36 am
Hey, Menj, that May 13 threat doesn’t work anymore. The days of bullying the non-Malays are coming to an end. Better sharpen up your skills to face the new Malaysia - the handouts are going to be drying up soon. UMNO has been practising apartheid since 1970. So it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black when you accuse HINDRAF of being racist. Who the hell do you think you are walking into people’s places of worship and destroying them?
[MENJ: Hey bacha, you are talking to a person who is aligned with PAS and not with UMNO. Please do not be quick to assume that just because I am a Muslim and have association with the Malays, it means that I automatically subscribe to UMNO ideology.]
Comment by Maidin Bacha — December 2, 2007 @ 2:29 am
agree with racist, supremacist UMNO…their leaders always announce that Malays are the ‘bangsa induk’, yadda yadda
but i don’t think they are Islamic. that would be insulting Islam? UMNO is so corrupt, racist, supremacist, dishonest, etc to be Islamic. maybe Islam Hadhari?
[MENJ: I agree. You are probably the only commenter here who is making fair comment about Islam.]
also, i think it’s bad taste to destroy a temple just days before deepavali. these are people’s holy shrines, how would u like it if people just bulldozed your God’s temple just before Hari Raya?
why not just give and take?
[MENJ: If you ask me frankly, I don't think there was any secret motive behind the bulldozing of illegal temples on government land. Although I do agree however that the issue could have been properly handled in a better manner.]
Comment by Jed Yoong — December 2, 2007 @ 2:48 am
Your post title itself is seditious. What saddens me is almost everyone is narrow minded and seem to unable to comprehend the actual reasons of the Hindraf outcry. They were merely asking for attention and stop the discrimantion. They didn’t ask for the abolishment of NEP or Malay rights. What they seek is stop all kind of unnatural hindrance by the government servants! There are apartheid kind of service rendered to Indians by the civil sector.
[MENJ: Obviously you have not read their 18-point Memorandum which calls for exactly that. Not that I care anyway, since I never bothered about the race card.]
If you think a repeat of May 13 is what they are asking for…I don’t think they have anything to lose except live. And don’t think they are sitting ducks for you to slay!
[MENJ: Knowing the Malay sentiment and being one who lives slap-bang in the middle of the community itself, I really don't think you are qualified to make a statement about how the Malays currently feel about the racial attitude of Hindraf, despite the political divide.]
Comment by Scorpionstar — December 2, 2007 @ 3:25 am
Menj, THAT is your opinion about Ataturk-the world opinion is he was the greatest man a muslim country could ever produce up to now.He was a great vsionary- which lacks among todays muslim leadership.Hence they cant control the terrorism in thgeir own back yard.
Is it your honest opinion or tainted with muslim buttering that you seem to be offering here?I know it is the later.
[MENJ:It is the opinion of ALL MUSLIMS who know the roots of that crypto-Jew, Attaturk the accursed, may Allah burn him in Hell with the hottest Flame. This is the real story.]
As for the issue of may 13th, the world is no longer as small as it used to be.I shall offer that opinon later.The hindraf is only a reaction to the UMNO RACISTS kris weilding clowny acts.If umno had not started its racist stances….no one would have reacted.
[MENJ: I am race-blind, I side with neither UMNO nor Hindraf. I will side with Islam.]
Comment by SS Malaysia — December 2, 2007 @ 5:59 am
If it had not been started,then it’s not been reacted.
Narrow minded policy had started it; affted group had reacted it. Universal rule. I cannot deny it, you too should deny it. If you deny it due to some hidden agenda in your mind then, ‘the system’ would be unbalance state. Unbalance system has never been lasted forever. Universal law says it. If you understand it then react balancely; if you don’t then don’t make worse; let understood people handle it. Just RESIGN for good course for all.
Comment by Putra-Malaysia — December 2, 2007 @ 10:24 am
I lost any sympathy towards Hindraf the moment they threatened to go Prabakaran’s way, and I wonder why all these anti-terrorism people did not make any noise about this threat. Because it’s not coming from Muslims, maybe?
It’s the same terrorism, Sri Lanka and Madrid.
It’s the same tear gas, PAS rally and Hindraf.
It’s the same ISA, the one suffered by Nik Aziz’s son and potentially Hindraf leaders.
But they don’t care as long as it’s Islam or Muslims at the receiving end.
Forget about check and balance, people will vote for BN now thanks to Hindraf’s stunt. The bleeding image of sub-inspector Chew Choon Peng will garner more votes than any other political personality.
Comment by abuhanaan — December 2, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
haha…i dont think umno is islamic extremist at all…hahaha…
Comment by melayubuntu — December 2, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
I have read your article on Atartuk and that one particular line; about Turkish men drinking alcohol after saying bismillah.
I winced; mainly because where I study there are people from Iran, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, and they get together all the time and drink, ironically saying the same phrase. Perhaps it isn’t limited to being secular; considering where they come from a woman who got raped is punished severely, what more the punishment of Man who defies the words of God?
Kemalism? I don’t think so.
Comment by Curious — December 4, 2007 @ 7:16 am
i have been in malaysia for three years moving with all 3 communities. my opinion is -1.indians -they dont want to work but always blame somebody for their mis fortune. they prefer to stay in dbkl houses and are content if they make money to drink have a motor. they nevey stick to time schedule.
2.chinese -the most sensible people i have seen - always willing to work hard and grow. good business ethics. they stick to schedule in any commitment.
3.malay -truly hospitable people - very friendly and easy going. they are people with rich and expensive tastes but mostly cannot afford it.
in a restoran you camn see this - indian children will order -roti kosong and ais kosong,malay children roti telor and milo ice,chinese children nasi goreng ayam telor atas and fresh oren juice. this is malaysia according to me
Comment by thirunavakkarasu — December 6, 2007 @ 4:41 pm