Comments on: The binding Rukunegara http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/ Brutally honest Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:01:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Vish http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/#comment-642 Vish Thu, 15 May 2008 21:55:07 +0000 http://www.ibnjuferi.com/?p=376#comment-642 Curiously enough, there is no provision in the constitution that ties in citizenship with the Rukunegara. The Rukunegara is, essentially, a national philosophy and/or ideology. It has never been enforced in any way really, aside from the compulsory dreary recitations in government schools. Lets face it, most of us fail the fifth principle, i.e. 'kesopanan dan kesusilaan' which essentially means good manners and courtesy does it not? Were the rukunegara to be a binding requirement of citizenship then the 'fuck you's uttered/written by many people (including yourself occasionally from what I've seen) would automatically disqualify them too, would it not? --Vish. ps: Yeah, I realise full well that you generally only respond discourteously too those who you deem to have insulted your religion or challenged it, but unfortunately our dear shortsighted rukunegara does not stipulate any mitigating factors that excuse it. :( Curiously enough, there is no provision in the constitution that ties in citizenship with the Rukunegara.

The Rukunegara is, essentially, a national philosophy and/or ideology. It has never been enforced in any way really, aside from the compulsory dreary recitations in government schools.

Lets face it, most of us fail the fifth principle, i.e. ‘kesopanan dan kesusilaan’ which essentially means good manners and courtesy does it not?

Were the rukunegara to be a binding requirement of citizenship then the ‘fuck you’s uttered/written by many people (including yourself occasionally from what I’ve seen) would automatically disqualify them too, would it not?

–Vish.

ps: Yeah, I realise full well that you generally only respond discourteously too those who you deem to have insulted your religion or challenged it, but unfortunately our dear shortsighted rukunegara does not stipulate any mitigating factors that excuse it. :(

]]> By: thatjames http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/#comment-640 thatjames Thu, 15 May 2008 03:49:42 +0000 http://www.ibnjuferi.com/?p=376#comment-640 Sex out of wedlock is unlawful! I remember a friend telling me this. His girlfriend at the time was separated from her hubby, though not legally divorced. The couple had tried to make a police report against hubby for trespassing, but was instead told that their union was unlawful. Cops even showed him some statutes (?) to prove the point. But I have no way of verifying this. :) Sex out of wedlock is unlawful! I remember a friend telling me this. His girlfriend at the time was separated from her hubby, though not legally divorced. The couple had tried to make a police report against hubby for trespassing, but was instead told that their union was unlawful. Cops even showed him some statutes (?) to prove the point.

But I have no way of verifying this. :)

]]> By: Hasbullah Pit http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/#comment-639 Hasbullah Pit Thu, 15 May 2008 00:30:30 +0000 http://www.ibnjuferi.com/?p=376#comment-639 My sugesttion was to bad illegal thing on civil level, there must be a way for atheists or person who worship money to register their marriage at civil level, in order to have legal sex. atheists dont believe in god, but doesnt mean dont believe in family value. My sugesttion was to bad illegal thing on civil level,
there must be a way for atheists or person who worship money to register their marriage at civil level, in order to have legal sex.

atheists dont believe in god, but doesnt mean dont believe in family value.

]]> By: lilian http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/#comment-637 lilian Wed, 14 May 2008 17:42:03 +0000 http://www.ibnjuferi.com/?p=376#comment-637 They believe in money god, leh? Also god what. Hahaha, but that's a wicked idea. Too bad no blog flames over here. They believe in money god, leh? Also god what. Hahaha, but that’s a wicked idea. Too bad no blog flames over here.

]]> By: jack http://www.ibnjuferi.com/the-binding-rukunegara/#comment-634 jack Wed, 14 May 2008 15:11:31 +0000 http://www.ibnjuferi.com/?p=376#comment-634 infact, that very clause denies the very basic human right :- to believe/not believe anything and everything. i guess now, all the atheist in Malaysia should sue the Malaysian Government for denying the to practice freedom of not having religon!! infact, that very clause denies the very basic human right :- to believe/not believe anything and everything.

i guess now, all the atheist in Malaysia should sue the Malaysian Government for denying the to practice freedom of not having religon!!

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